By Jordan Estabrook, LifeNews - As the fires in California consumed Mel Gibson’s house and the homes of others, proclaimed Catholic Mel Gibson talked with Joe Rogan and entered philosophical territory. For almost three hours, they discussed the mismanagement of California neglecting the benefit of people for tiny fish, how choosing woke criteria over competence makes bad leaders, an in-depth discussion about the return of Passion of the Christ, and most interestingly, the longstanding nature of child sacrifice and how it lives today through abortion.